Post by navnukjent (Edmund Blackadder) on Sept 22, 2013 11:02:31 GMT
The main reason for going through rebirths are:
1) There isn't much content when you have finished the story lines.
2) Rebirths give you access to all the fealty buildings, which gives you more resource production, more gear, higher keep stats and the possibility of getting a dragon.
3) It gives you a chance to try the story lines with different backgrounds, and they give you some new experiences.
Here is a guide written by Retsamerol at the Disruptor Beam forum:
1) Aim to Reincarnate on Day 7, 14 or 21.
Rationale: This is actually optimizing for gold. Reincarnation resets your daily login reward. Once you reincarnate on Day 7, it swings you back to day 1, effectively shaving off a day. Those who can reincarnate on day 7 gets to claim gold once every 6 days. Day 14 reincarnators can claim gold ever 6.5 days (on average). Day 8, 15 and 22 reincarnations are also acceptable since you don’t lose a day on the daily rewards count.
2) Village Center Brewhouse gold upgrade is a better investment than Counting House Money Chests gold upgrade
Rationale: Bread and mead carry over to your subsequent incarnations but silver does not. For 7 days, Money Chests are a worthwhile investment only up to level 2 (since level 3 takes 10 days to pay for itself) and for 14 days, Money Chests are only worthwhile up to level 3 (since level 4 takes 13 days and 8 hours to pay for itself). In contrast, you can take full advantage of the level 5 Brewhouse upgrade. Capacity upgrades are worthwhile though.
3) Prioritize Counting House and Village Center/Fealty Buildings
Rationale: They immediately provide returns that makes this incarnation easier and carry over to the next incarnation, respectively. Good place to use mead. None of the other buildings or upgrades provide direct returns.
4) Once the Counting House silver bars are maxed (and money chests optimized), acquire common Sworn Swords. Send as many sworn swords out on adventures as you can manage.
Rationale: Multiple common sworn swords is better than a single more expensive sworn sword. This is because you don’t need to succeed most of the missions in Volume 1 in order to proceed. When there is a pass/retry mission, just throw your most experienced and best armed Sworn Sword at the mission. Common Sworn Swords will pay for themselves much faster than other rarities, as adventure rewards do not scale to SS rarity. Try to send SS out on adventures that drop grain and fish, with grain prioritization (due to mead).
5) Tackle multiple quests simultaneously in Volumes 1, 2 and 3.
You’re aiming at around 3 Sworn Swords to handle Volume 1 Quests, 1 for Random Quests, 1 for Volume 2 Quests and 1 for Volume 3 Quests. And then you want about as many as your command points can handle to send on adventures/PvP.
Rationale: It’s faster to run things in parallel than in serial. Switching to new chapters does not lock you out of incomplete chapters.
6) Ask for help in chat and alliance for challenges immediately.
Rationale: There are really useful challenge rewards, especially at the beginning of Volume 3. The top prizes aren’t usually permanent anyways, so let other people have them while you blast through challenges quickly.
7) Save 25 points to spend on level 13 fealty and level 30 speed up talents.
Rationale: As soon as you hit level 30, you can reduce your primary specialization in quests/adventures/PvP by 24%. Best talent for reincarnators, full stop. Fealty buildings are just nice to have for production bonuses. Since you can’t reset your talents without paying gold (usually), it’s better to be able to take full advantage of your speed up talents as soon as you have access.
Observation: 14 day reincarnations are doable without speed enhancement or bread. 7 days reincarnations require bread and every speed enhancement reduces bread consumption.
8) Prioritize Bread/Mead Production, then building upgrades, then equipment crafting.
Rationale: You can take Bread/Mead with you when you reincarnate. You need bread if you want to reincarnate in 6 days. Keep stats affect all Sworn Swords whereas equipment only helps a single sworn sword. In one incarnation, I think I only crafted the decorative sword from the prologue and food.
9) Go for the Obsidian Dagger in one of the early incarnations
Rationale: 20/20/20 +5%, permanent provides an amazing boost to reincarnators. The hardest part is to have 400 PvP wins. This takes more than 7 days, but can be done within 14 days once you have 20 or so Sworn Swords with the speed enhancer talents. It gets harder in your later incarnations due to the current PvP matching by power and 7 day new incarnation protection.
Observation: You can get more than one Obsidian Dagger. One for your main character and one for your helpful sworn sword means that you can start off an incarnation with +40 to everything on quests.
10) Consider early Baratheon incarnation
Rationale: Wood is required for both Bread and Mead. This building really helps with production outputs. On the downside, you don’t end up with the Baratheon incarnation if you’re only going for 4 reincarnations, meaning you can’t get Ours is the Fury.
11) Use bread on Kirth’s storyline, save some for last day
Rationale: Volume 1 storylines are uneven in length. Kirth’s storyline is much longer than the others, and that should be the only storyline you spend your bread on. Since you don’t want to use more bread than you need to, it’s wise to use buffer some bread use to spend on reincaration date.
12) Lower priority gold building purchases are the Smithy’s Horseshoes (5% time reduction for battle attacks), Embassy’s Foreign Diplomat (10% time reduction for spy attacks) and Market’s Exchange (15% time reduction for resource production)
Rationale: Time reductions directly translate into decreased bread/mead consumption and increased production. I don’t think Market exchange is that useful because I tend to stop making mead after a while and can produce enough grain and fish to keep up, but I suspect hardcore players might be able to make use of it. I haven’t done the math.
13) Consider buying the Direwolf Patriarch
Rationale: same as above. But also to support the developers.
14) Play a lot
Rationale: self-explanatory. Also we needed another member for the party so that we don’t have an unlucky number.
EDIT:
This is somewhat outdated due to changes in the game.
1) There isn't much content when you have finished the story lines.
2) Rebirths give you access to all the fealty buildings, which gives you more resource production, more gear, higher keep stats and the possibility of getting a dragon.
3) It gives you a chance to try the story lines with different backgrounds, and they give you some new experiences.
Here is a guide written by Retsamerol at the Disruptor Beam forum:
1) Aim to Reincarnate on Day 7, 14 or 21.
Rationale: This is actually optimizing for gold. Reincarnation resets your daily login reward. Once you reincarnate on Day 7, it swings you back to day 1, effectively shaving off a day. Those who can reincarnate on day 7 gets to claim gold once every 6 days. Day 14 reincarnators can claim gold ever 6.5 days (on average). Day 8, 15 and 22 reincarnations are also acceptable since you don’t lose a day on the daily rewards count.
2) Village Center Brewhouse gold upgrade is a better investment than Counting House Money Chests gold upgrade
Rationale: Bread and mead carry over to your subsequent incarnations but silver does not. For 7 days, Money Chests are a worthwhile investment only up to level 2 (since level 3 takes 10 days to pay for itself) and for 14 days, Money Chests are only worthwhile up to level 3 (since level 4 takes 13 days and 8 hours to pay for itself). In contrast, you can take full advantage of the level 5 Brewhouse upgrade. Capacity upgrades are worthwhile though.
3) Prioritize Counting House and Village Center/Fealty Buildings
Rationale: They immediately provide returns that makes this incarnation easier and carry over to the next incarnation, respectively. Good place to use mead. None of the other buildings or upgrades provide direct returns.
4) Once the Counting House silver bars are maxed (and money chests optimized), acquire common Sworn Swords. Send as many sworn swords out on adventures as you can manage.
Rationale: Multiple common sworn swords is better than a single more expensive sworn sword. This is because you don’t need to succeed most of the missions in Volume 1 in order to proceed. When there is a pass/retry mission, just throw your most experienced and best armed Sworn Sword at the mission. Common Sworn Swords will pay for themselves much faster than other rarities, as adventure rewards do not scale to SS rarity. Try to send SS out on adventures that drop grain and fish, with grain prioritization (due to mead).
5) Tackle multiple quests simultaneously in Volumes 1, 2 and 3.
You’re aiming at around 3 Sworn Swords to handle Volume 1 Quests, 1 for Random Quests, 1 for Volume 2 Quests and 1 for Volume 3 Quests. And then you want about as many as your command points can handle to send on adventures/PvP.
Rationale: It’s faster to run things in parallel than in serial. Switching to new chapters does not lock you out of incomplete chapters.
6) Ask for help in chat and alliance for challenges immediately.
Rationale: There are really useful challenge rewards, especially at the beginning of Volume 3. The top prizes aren’t usually permanent anyways, so let other people have them while you blast through challenges quickly.
7) Save 25 points to spend on level 13 fealty and level 30 speed up talents.
Rationale: As soon as you hit level 30, you can reduce your primary specialization in quests/adventures/PvP by 24%. Best talent for reincarnators, full stop. Fealty buildings are just nice to have for production bonuses. Since you can’t reset your talents without paying gold (usually), it’s better to be able to take full advantage of your speed up talents as soon as you have access.
Observation: 14 day reincarnations are doable without speed enhancement or bread. 7 days reincarnations require bread and every speed enhancement reduces bread consumption.
8) Prioritize Bread/Mead Production, then building upgrades, then equipment crafting.
Rationale: You can take Bread/Mead with you when you reincarnate. You need bread if you want to reincarnate in 6 days. Keep stats affect all Sworn Swords whereas equipment only helps a single sworn sword. In one incarnation, I think I only crafted the decorative sword from the prologue and food.
9) Go for the Obsidian Dagger in one of the early incarnations
Rationale: 20/20/20 +5%, permanent provides an amazing boost to reincarnators. The hardest part is to have 400 PvP wins. This takes more than 7 days, but can be done within 14 days once you have 20 or so Sworn Swords with the speed enhancer talents. It gets harder in your later incarnations due to the current PvP matching by power and 7 day new incarnation protection.
Observation: You can get more than one Obsidian Dagger. One for your main character and one for your helpful sworn sword means that you can start off an incarnation with +40 to everything on quests.
10) Consider early Baratheon incarnation
Rationale: Wood is required for both Bread and Mead. This building really helps with production outputs. On the downside, you don’t end up with the Baratheon incarnation if you’re only going for 4 reincarnations, meaning you can’t get Ours is the Fury.
11) Use bread on Kirth’s storyline, save some for last day
Rationale: Volume 1 storylines are uneven in length. Kirth’s storyline is much longer than the others, and that should be the only storyline you spend your bread on. Since you don’t want to use more bread than you need to, it’s wise to use buffer some bread use to spend on reincaration date.
12) Lower priority gold building purchases are the Smithy’s Horseshoes (5% time reduction for battle attacks), Embassy’s Foreign Diplomat (10% time reduction for spy attacks) and Market’s Exchange (15% time reduction for resource production)
Rationale: Time reductions directly translate into decreased bread/mead consumption and increased production. I don’t think Market exchange is that useful because I tend to stop making mead after a while and can produce enough grain and fish to keep up, but I suspect hardcore players might be able to make use of it. I haven’t done the math.
13) Consider buying the Direwolf Patriarch
Rationale: same as above. But also to support the developers.
14) Play a lot
Rationale: self-explanatory. Also we needed another member for the party so that we don’t have an unlucky number.
EDIT:
This is somewhat outdated due to changes in the game.
- Permanent SS changes A LOT. Get some permanent peerless SS prior to your first rebirth!
- Get some good permanent gear for your main character.
- Get some good seals on your main character and the permanent gear for your main character.
